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    • AC/DC rock music: trock
    • Sep 8th 2021
     
    Hey everyone

    thought this might be insteresting and I thought of it seeing another Dave Evans thread here.

    so, Dave obviously was let go and Bon came in and the rest is history (although it took years of hard work) so they say. I then remembered Pete Best, the original Drummer for the beatles, who played with them and recorded with them early on but was also let go with Ringo coming in, and the rest is history

    I think in U2 the Edge's brother was originally in the band but may have left on his own accord, just before they broke big

    Here on this forum I have always wondered how Dave truly felt, or Pete, etc. I knwo Pete had alot of issues but also knwo that when they released one of the huge box sets Paul M made sure he finally got a bunch of royalties, etc. for what he had played on and helped with.

    anyway, not a big deal, but anyone know any other bands, or members of famous bands who had members leave just before breaking huge?
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      AC/DC rock music: Rocco
    • Sep 8th 2021
     
    Posted By: trockHey everyone

    thought this might be insteresting and I thought of it seeing another Dave Evans thread here.

    so, Dave obviously was let go and Bon came in and the rest is history (although it took years of hard work) so they say. I then remembered Pete Best, the original Drummer for the beatles, who played with them and recorded with them early on but was also let go with Ringo coming in, and the rest is history

    I think in U2 the Edge's brother was originally in the band but may have left on his own accord, just before they broke big

    Here on this forum I have always wondered how Dave truly felt, or Pete, etc. I knwo Pete had alot of issues but also knwo that when they released one of the huge box sets Paul M made sure he finally got a bunch of royalties, etc. for what he had played on and helped with.

    anyway, not a big deal, but anyone know any other bands, or members of famous bands who had members leave just before breaking huge?


    You could say Bon left just right before they made it big. But atleast he got a taste of that kind of success.

    Chat Channing comes to mind who was replaced by Dave Grohl just before Nirvana made Nevermind.
    • AC/DC rock music: trock
    • Sep 8th 2021
     
    oh good on rocco! and tru about bon, he had a taste but Brian was the one who really had the big time hit.

    I didn't know that about Dave Grohl either, cool info. i like Dave's stuff now with Foo Fighters and also his special he had on the mixing board he got that was famous.
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      AC/DC rock music: Badlands66
    • Sep 8th 2021 edited
     
    Bruce Dickinson replacing Di’Anno for sure.

    Mick Taylor replacing Brian Jones....probably the biggest upset of all, he formed the band, picked the members, got them the gigs, decided what musical direction they wete gonna pursue, then threw it all away.

    Kirk Hammet replacing Dave Mustaine, another giant upset. Dave is 10 times as talented as Kirk in my book, but was (is) a prick to get along with.

    Ronnie Dio replacing Ozzy, though they had already gone big by that point.

    Paul Bostaph replacing Dave Lombardo, how big were those shoes to fill?
    Dave is only considered to be the greatest trash drummer ever.

    Nils Lofgren replacing Steven Van Zandt right before they released Born in the U.S.A which sold ludicrous amounts.
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      AC/DC rock music: Rocco
    • Sep 8th 2021
     
    Posted By: trockoh good on rocco! and tru about bon, he had a taste but Brian was the one who really had the big time hit.

    I didn't know that about Dave Grohl either, cool info. i like Dave's stuff now with Foo Fighters and also his special he had on the mixing board he got that was famous.


    IIRC Channing even drummed on the Nevermind-demos and Dave on a lot of songs basically copied what Channing had come up with.

    Mark Evans would probably be a good example too.
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      AC/DC rock music: acadacauk
    • Sep 8th 2021
     
    Rush --John Rutsey out Neil Peart in
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    Yup, Pete Best and Chat Channing come to mind.

    A really interesting one is Vince Clarke and Depeche Mode. Vince Clarke was the primary songwriter on their first few records at which point they were a successful pop act but nowhere near an arena or a stadium act. That when Vince Clarke left to form Yazoo Martin Gore had to take over songwriting duties and the rest is history – they became one of the biggest bands of the late 80s and 90s.
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      AC/DC rock music: Zan
    • Sep 8th 2021
     
    Mark Knopfler's brother David Knopfler who played rhythm guitar left Dire Straits just before the release of Making Movies, the record which turned them into a stadium band. The two brothers are estranged to this day and do not speak to each other, apparently Mark considered David leaving the band "a huge relief".
    My guess is there was some tension caused by the fact that Mark was immeasurably more talented, which Mark probably knew and David resented.
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      AC/DC rock music: Zan
    • Sep 8th 2021
     
    Oh, and Syd Barrett of course. Him and Pete Best are like the ground zero for these sort of stuff. Brian Jones is a borderline case since the Stones were huge when he was still in the band, and it was probably the stardom that caused his downfall.
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      AC/DC rock music: angus1878
    • Sep 8th 2021 edited
     
    when did Izzy Stradlin leave GnR ?

    seen them in little venues in the 80,s but once they were doing stadiums (ILLUSION etc) was he in the band ?

    wasnt Pete Green another one ?
    • AC/DC rock music: nimeta
    • Sep 8th 2021
     
    Sadly the classics for me involve death ..

    Cliff Metallica
    Randy ozzy
    Bon


    Sad but true
    • AC/DC rock music: fyfe79
    • Sep 8th 2021
     
    Posted By: angus1878when did Izzy Stradlin leave GnR ?

    seen them in little venues in the 80,s but once they were doing stadiums (ILLUSION etc) was he in the band ?

    wasnt Pete Green another one ?


    Izzy did the first leg of that Illusion tour in the US in '91. My understanding is that he was trying to go clean but there was excess already on that tour so he jacked it. A wise choice considering it went on for a full 2 years into the summer of '93.
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    Dennis Stratton - Iron Maiden
    Mark Stone - Van Halen
    Queen had a few bass players before settling with John Deacon

    https://www.blabberm...
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    As carolinareaper says, Dennis Stratton - Iron Maiden and I'd also add Doug Sampson - Iron Maiden. I always forget it was these guys in the beginning.
    Ron McGovney, then Cliff - Metallica
    Randy, Lee Kerslake, Rudy Sarzo - Ozzy
    Mark Evans - AC/DC, again I always forget it was Mark playing on some of my favourite AC/DC songs of all time.
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      AC/DC rock music: Zan
    • Sep 9th 2021
     
    Posted By: medium_rareAs carolinareaper says, Dennis Stratton - Iron Maiden and I'd also add Doug Sampson - Iron Maiden. I always forget it was these guys in the beginning.

    Don't forget about Clive Burr! While Clive was great and could easily have been their main drummer for the rest of their career, Dennis Stratton has nothing on the great Adrian Smith, easily one of the best member changes I can think of.

    Also: Al Atkins - Judas Priest.
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    Def Leppard. Pete Willis.
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    Posted By: MeanstreakDef Leppard. Pete Willis.


    Pete had a narrow escape :)
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    Rod Evans and Nick Simper. Deep Purple
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    Posted By: Zan
    Posted By: medium_rareAs carolinareaper says, Dennis Stratton - Iron Maiden and I'd also add Doug Sampson - Iron Maiden. I always forget it was these guys in the beginning.

    Don't forget about Clive Burr! While Clive was great and could easily have been their main drummer for the rest of their career, Dennis Stratton has nothing on the great Adrian Smith, easily one of the best member changes I can think of.


    Absolutely! Clive was awesome. I didn't put Clive's name purely because he played on The Number Of The Beast which (to me at least) was their breakthrough, so in a sense he was around when the band "made it". Hope that makes sense. He was a great drummer, one of the best.

    Adrian was/is one of the best guitarists I've ever heard or seen live, I was mortified when he left in the early 90's. Adrian, Dave (Murray), Malcolm and Angus are my top four guitarists of all time.
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    Not too bad at singing either...

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    Posted By: medium_rareNot too bad at singing either... Skip to 2 minutes for the start of the song.

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      AC/DC rock music: azel
    • Sep 9th 2021
     
    Posted By: Alex LebanonYup, Pete Best and Chat Channing come to mind.

    A really interesting one is Vince Clarke and Depeche Mode. Vince Clarke was the primary songwriter on their first few records at which point they were a successful pop act but nowhere near an arena or a stadium act. That when Vince Clarke left to form Yazoo Martin Gore had to take over songwriting duties and the rest is history – they became one of the biggest bands of the late 80s and 90s.


    "Pop act" - Sums Vince up I think. Yazoo and Erasure both great pop bands, but neither were going to be anything more than that.
    Love a bit of Depeche Mode.
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    Posted By: azel
    Posted By: Alex LebanonYup, Pete Best and Chat Channing come to mind.

    A really interesting one is Vince Clarke and Depeche Mode. Vince Clarke was the primary songwriter on their first few records at which point they were a successful pop act but nowhere near an arena or a stadium act. That when Vince Clarke left to form Yazoo Martin Gore had to take over songwriting duties and the rest is history – they became one of the biggest bands of the late 80s and 90s.


    "Pop act" - Sums Vince up I think. Yazoo and Erasure both great pop bands, but neither were going to be anything more than that.
    Love a bit of Depeche Mode.


    Huge respect for Martin Gore - talk about rising to the challenge! Violator still sounds effortlessly sleek and honed 30 years on whereas most electronic music tends to date quite badly.
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      AC/DC rock music: azel
    • Sep 9th 2021
     
    Posted By: Alex Lebanon
    Posted By: azel
    Posted By: Alex LebanonYup, Pete Best and Chat Channing come to mind.

    A really interesting one is Vince Clarke and Depeche Mode. Vince Clarke was the primary songwriter on their first few records at which point they were a successful pop act but nowhere near an arena or a stadium act. That when Vince Clarke left to form Yazoo Martin Gore had to take over songwriting duties and the rest is history – they became one of the biggest bands of the late 80s and 90s.


    "Pop act" - Sums Vince up I think. Yazoo and Erasure both great pop bands, but neither were going to be anything more than that.
    Love a bit of Depeche Mode.


    Huge respect for Martin Gore - talk about rising to the challenge! Violator still sounds effortlessly sleek and honed 30 years on whereas most electronic music tends to date quite badly.


    Funny that, because during those times I didn't really give much of it a chance (except Tears for Fears), these days I love the '80s electronic sound.

    Similar with The Jam.
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    Wow. Talking depeche mode on this forum
    In the rock n roll hall of fame
    Gie ma heid peace
    Pish. But each to their own
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    Funny that, because during those times I didn't really give much of it a chance (except Tears for Fears), these days I love the '80s electronic sound.

    Similar with The Jam.


    At least The Jam had a bit of Edge and plenty of energy and guitar
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    Posted By: azel
    Posted By: Alex Lebanon
    Posted By: azel
    Posted By: Alex LebanonYup, Pete Best and Chat Channing come to mind.

    A really interesting one is Vince Clarke and Depeche Mode. Vince Clarke was the primary songwriter on their first few records at which point they were a successful pop act but nowhere near an arena or a stadium act. That when Vince Clarke left to form Yazoo Martin Gore had to take over songwriting duties and the rest is history – they became one of the biggest bands of the late 80s and 90s.


    "Pop act" - Sums Vince up I think. Yazoo and Erasure both great pop bands, but neither were going to be anything more than that.
    Love a bit of Depeche Mode.


    Huge respect for Martin Gore - talk about rising to the challenge! Violator still sounds effortlessly sleek and honed 30 years on whereas most electronic music tends to date quite badly.


    Funny that, because during those times I didn't really give much of it a chance (except Tears for Fears), these days I love the '80s electronic sound. Ok

    Similar with The Jam.


    The 80s are bigger than ever - my son and all his mates from uni are going to see New Order at Heaton Park tomorrow. Part of the draw is that they now play a Joy Division set but fairly sure they could not have played a venue of that size in their 80s hay day.
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      AC/DC rock music: azel
    • Sep 9th 2021
     
    Posted By: Davidceltic
    Funny that, because during those times I didn't really give much of it a chance (except Tears for Fears), these days I love the '80s electronic sound.

    Similar with The Jam.


    At least The Jam had a bit of Edge and plenty of energy and guitar


    Back in the day I was pretty much a straight down the line rocker. These days I'm getting into a lot more besides, and loving it.

    There are some remarkable songs amongst the electronica genre.
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      AC/DC rock music: Zan
    • Sep 9th 2021
     
    Posted By: Alex Lebanon
    Posted By: azel
    Posted By: Alex LebanonYup, Pete Best and Chat Channing come to mind.

    A really interesting one is Vince Clarke and Depeche Mode. Vince Clarke was the primary songwriter on their first few records at which point they were a successful pop act but nowhere near an arena or a stadium act. That when Vince Clarke left to form Yazoo Martin Gore had to take over songwriting duties and the rest is history – they became one of the biggest bands of the late 80s and 90s.


    "Pop act" - Sums Vince up I think. Yazoo and Erasure both great pop bands, but neither were going to be anything more than that.
    Love a bit of Depeche Mode.


    Huge respect for Martin Gore - talk about rising to the challenge! Violator still sounds effortlessly sleek and honed 30 years on whereas most electronic music tends to date quite badly.

    Violator is a work of genius, an almost perfect record. Don't forget about Alan Wilder though, who was a big part of their sound. DM suffered huge losses of quality after Alan left in 1995, so Violator wasn't all Martin Gore, but I agree that he is an amazing songwriter.
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    Posted By: fyfe79
    Posted By: angus1878when did Izzy Stradlin leave GnR ?

    seen them in little venues in the 80,s but once they were doing stadiums (ILLUSION etc) was he in the band ?

    wasnt Pete Green another one ?


    Izzy did the first leg of that Illusion tour in the US in '91. My understanding is that he was trying to go clean but there was excess already on that tour so he jacked it. A wise choice considering it went on for a full 2 years into the summer of '93.


    I think I remember reading that Izzy's last show with GNR was in August 1991 in England. So only a few months into the Use Your Illusion tour, and a month before the albums had even been released.

    And yes, he had gotten sober and everyone else was still using, so it makes sense that he would want to leave. I also remember reading that he didn't like such a high level of fame.
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    Jason Evermann the other guitarist in Nirvana. Green Day also had a second guitarist who left just before they took of

    No Doubt - Gwen Stefanis brother left before they rocketed, but was on their biggest album with many co-writes (Including Dont Speak) so did well. He left to be an animator for the Simpsons

    Other mentions:

    - Al Atkins Judas Priest, original singer
    - Original drummer for Rush
    - Tracii Guns in Guns N Roses
    - Yamamoto, the bass player for Soundgarden, left on his own will in early 90ties
    - W.A.S.P. Original and to me their best drummer, Tony Richards was booted out after finishing the debut album
    - Chuck Mosley in Faith No More, original singer, well without Mike Patton the band would have not reached the level where they are
    - Hil and Irons in RHCP
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      AC/DC rock music: Zan
    • Sep 9th 2021
     
    Posted By: CliffFINmark2
    - Hil and Irons in RHCP


    Hillel Slovak died though, they almost broke up because of it and Jack Irons quit because he did not want to go on anymore after the tragedy. I believe Jack Irons is still very good friends with Anthony and Flea, and has guested them on occasion.

    Jack Sherman however is another story. He was brought in as a replacement for Hillel when RHCP got signed, because Hillel could not get off his record contract with another band. He played only on the first record and got sacked immediately the moment RHCP could get Hillel back. Must have stung.
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    I don't think I've seen a mention of Ian Curtis above, leaving for good shortly before the Closer album and Love Will Tear You Apart single came out and made them inspirations for myriads of later bands.
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    Always cool when you hear that some of these guys are still mates with their old bandmates - even decades later.
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    Posted By: soulstripper666I don't think I've seen a mention of Ian Curtis above, leaving for good shortly before the Closer album and Love Will Tear You Apart single came out and made them inspirations for myriads of later bands.


    Yup, the film Control helped but Joy Division's stature just grows and grows with every passing year. One of the few clean sheets in rock - two albums, two masterpieces, and a final stand alone track that ranks among the greatest songs ever written. Much as I love New Order, I think Joy Division will outlast them in terms of legacy/longevity.
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    Danny Whitten....the song Needle and the Damage Done is about him.
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      AC/DC rock music: Zan
    • Sep 10th 2021
     
    Posted By: soulstripper666I don't think I've seen a mention of Ian Curtis above, leaving for good shortly before the Closer album and Love Will Tear You Apart single came out and made them inspirations for myriads of later bands.

    I don't think he counts as he didn't leave, he killed himself. Joy Division's enormous status and longevity is clearly related in many ways to his suicide.
    • AC/DC rock music: guzgog
    • Sep 10th 2021
     
    Posted By: azel

    Funny that, because during those times I didn't really give much of it a chance (except Tears for Fears), these days I love the '80s electronic sound.

    Similar with The Jam.


    Tears for Fears? Good man.
    • AC/DC rock music: guzgog
    • Sep 10th 2021
     
    Andrew Wood? Yeah I know, another one who 'left for good' but....
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    Def Leppard.
    Not a whole member, but a significant bit of him.