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      AC/DC rock music: Spellbound
    • Nov 9th 2018 edited
     
    On a similar note to that Pod.

    The day Lemmy died, I was out on a date with my neighbor while she was back from college. We ended up talking about being born at the time we were, and having an interest in older music from 2+ decades before us, most of our biggest influences will past before we’re even 25-30.

    2 hours later on the way home, I saw the post on Facebook about Lemmy and felt gutted, albeit with a pretty grim giggle to be had given the conversation right before it.

    Fast forward to now with Lemmy, George and Malcolm all gone (my three main heroes), and what’s left of DC still kicking, music has definitely gotten a little bleaker since most of the newer stuff I like and found are from the 2000s from bands that have departed from the sound they had.

    Even a band like The Front Bottoms (which I know absolutely no one on here will but it’s a huge guilty pleasure for me due to my crowd and hometown) who are fairly new and took off with their own sound changed things up a bit outside of what I came to know them for.

    There’s a real sense of integrity that’s lost with guys like Lemmy.
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    Posted By: SpellboundAlso, yes.

    I'm gonna cop A LOT of shit, but lemmy is the best lyricist in rock and metal. Bon and Brian are amazing, and AC/DC will always be my favorite band of all time, but you'll never see them stuff like what Lemmy has. The man was incredibly well read, very verbose. Easily one of my favorite parts about the band. Down on Me is probably one of the most heart felt songs Lem has ever written and is undoubtedly top 10 Motorhead for me.


    No way is he the best, he's definitely the most under-rated. Caustic and funny, frequently at the same time. And I much prefer the way his passion for military history comes over in his lyrics compared with someone like Iron Maiden where it always feels like a history lesson.
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    Who would say is the best?
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    To all of you that have recommended Another Perfect Day:

    Thank you. Thank you so fucking much.
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    Another Perfect Day is great.

    So anyway, because of this thread I started looking through my boxes and found Overnight Sensation (1996). I remember some people bashing this album for some weird reason, too comercial, too catchy, no logo (!), but I believe it sounds as Motorhead as anything else. Again, I'm not a super fan so I wouldn't know.

    So I gave it a spin and having in mind all the chat about how Lemmy was a great lyricist, I found I really like this track that I had totally forgotten it existed:



    A little bit different, great lyrics, and I especially like how Lemmy sings this one. It kinda reminds me of Stiff Upper Lip when Brian starts the song with his deep voice before jumping into the LIKE A DOG IN A...!!!!!!!!!!!

    Not Motorhead's best song I guess, but it's cool, it gets into your head after a couple listenings.
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    Another Perfect Day is up there with Ace of Spades and Overkill as far as I’m concerned. All time favorite album cover with some killer fucking cuts.

    @BT: Over ight Sensation is a great album too. I didn’t know it copped any criticism - songs like I don’t believe a word, the title track, and Shake the World are too good to shit on.

    Love Can’t Buy You Money is probably one of the filthiest songs I’ve ever listened to. I feel like I need a shower and an STD check when it comes on.
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    Posted By: SpellboundWho would say is the best?


    An obvious and unoriginal choice, but IMHO Dylan is way way out front of any other lyricist. Side Two of BIABH is the zenith – he’s really in the ring with the big guys at the point, your TS Eliots and Ezra Pound’s. If you want to make the case popular culture and high art are not mutually exclusive, It’s Alright Ma & Gates of Eden are two big guns in the arsenal. After that I think there’s a few people vying for the number two slot – Neil Young, Leonard Cohen, Jim Morrison, Springsteen and – probably showing some healthy bias – maybe Bon, too.

    I agree with you about APD, too, its in my top five for sure. Different but still great.
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    Posted By: PodDespite having seen the end coming for a few years, I was distraught when I woke to find Lemmy had died.

    I'm a big fuck, not prone to blubbing over anything that doesn't involve my kids, but I was in bits that day

    Odd thing happened too. Some part of my musical interest just kinda gave up. Stupid I know but I stopped coming on here and other music forums, I've been to far fewer gigs these past few of years, and I don't sit in my little room listening to music like I used to. It's like a part of my enthusiasm and love of it all died that day too. Call me a soft cunt but there you are.

    Best lp? Overkill but it's a close run thing with a dozen or more others. I saw them plenty down the years and they were always amazing live from gig 1 in 1983 to my final gig at Wembley Arena in 2014. Be it headlining a tiny venue or supporting at a huge festival, they played with honesty and always "cleaned your clock".

    Lemmy always said it would never quite be the same without him and he sure wasn't wrong.


    Always associate Motorhead with you, Pod, you suggested I purchase No Remorse back in early 2016 and I never looked back - cheers!
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    Posted By: MyCubiclePenguinTo all of you that have recommended Another Perfect Day:

    Thank you. Thank you so fucking much.





    Yep. Robertson was a bloody good guitarist and sounds perfect in there. I know Lemmy couldn´t stand Robertson´s stage outfits later on though. What was it? Tight short shorts?
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    Posted By: Wholelottatobe
    Posted By: MyCubiclePenguinTo all of you that have recommended Another Perfect Day:

    Thank you. Thank you so fucking much.

    Yep. Robertson was a bloody good guitarist and sounds perfect in there. I know Lemmy couldn´t stand Robertson´s stage outfits later on though. What was it? Tight short shorts?
    The style is different than Fast Eddies', but I think it actually fits with Motorheads already established way of playing. It's a nice and different touch, but it doesn't ruin the integrity of the music whatsoever.
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      AC/DC rock music: Jem
    • Nov 10th 2018
     
    Posted By: Alex Lebanongreat.


    Dylan, Van Morrison, Cohen and Young are the big four lyricists for me.
    • AC/DC rock music: Mal
    • Nov 11th 2018
     
    Love the tongue in cheek lyrics of so much of what Lemmy wrote, kind of similar to Bon in many respects. Always fun but always meant business on stage.
    Miss the old coloured vinyls ike Motörhead's early singles, a blue Motörhead "Motörhead" and a red Iron fist spring to mind, silly as nostalgia is.
    Favorite album probably 1916.
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    My favourite track off APD - seems poignantly timely, too, with all the WW1 commemorations taking place:


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    Posted By: Alex LebanonMy favourite track off APD - seems poignantly timely, too, with all the WW1 commemorations taking place:


    Definitely a great one, but my favorite's gotta be the opener. Robertson's lead playing style is shown very clearly, and the song is overall badass as fuck. Seriously, you open with Lemmy saying some random shit, and then go into one of the loudest bass openers in music history. Right off the bat after he's done talking just DUHDUHDUHDUHDUHDUHDUHDUHDUH
    • AC/DC rock music: acdc1988
    • Nov 13th 2018
     
    Does anybody know where and when this foto of Lemmy Angus and Brian has been taken ?
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    Found another one from the same day. Based on the background and what they're holding, I'd say it has to do with kerrang magazine
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      AC/DC rock music: Pod
    • Nov 15th 2018
     
    Read your comment Alex Lebanon. Glad I could help regards Motörhead. Your not the first on here I've steered towards the band and I'm always glad when someone wants to get into their music. Just such a shame we can't see them live anymore. November has never been the same these past few years.
    • AC/DC rock music: nimeta
    • Nov 15th 2018
     
    Lots of love here for Another Perfect Day, which has always been my favourite MH album. I have read though that die-hard Motorheadbangers hate that album - maybe us ACDC fans are a touch too melodic or their tastes :)

    I have the vinyl of APD signed by Lemmy and the band. I saw them at the Manchester Apollo - I was still at school, scruffy little shit covered with teenage spots. Lemmy was a class act. It was a winter gig and cold outside so he invited EVERY fan waiting outside back into the theatre where they had set up a couple of wooden tables, which they stood behind. We queued up and they signed every time the fans brought.

    When it was my turn, Lemmy looked down at me and said out loud "I guess the party at your place tonight". I almost shit myself lol.

    True legend!!
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    Posted By: nimetaLots of love here for Another Perfect Day, which has always been my favourite MH album. I have read though that die-hard Motorheadbangers hate that album - maybe us ACDC fans are a touch too melodic or their tastes :)

    I have the vinyl of APD signed by Lemmy and the band. I saw them at the Manchester Apollo - I was still at school, scruffy little shit covered with teenage spots. Lemmy was a class act. It was a winter gig and cold outside so he invited EVERY fan waiting outside back into the theatre where they had set up a couple of wooden tables, which they stood behind. We queued up and they signed every time the fans brought.

    When it was my turn, Lemmy looked down at me and said out loud "I guess the party at your place tonight". I almost shit myself lol.

    True legend!!
    I wouldn't say ACDC is much more melodic than Motorhead, but there are some standout songs that I would classify as very melodic (YSMALN is a classic example of that). I guess in the same way we shit on BUYV for being too "1980's", some Motorhead fans hate on APD for being too melodic and sonic in terms of guitar sound. A big difference in them, though, is that APD has great songwriting, while BUYV has.... well.... it's okay...

    Also, great story!
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    Bump because it's all I've been listening to the past week or so, and as I go deeper into their catalog, I notice something.

    Lemmy always labeled them as a rock band, and while at the end of the day the genre doesn't fucking matter, I do notice that their sound became much more metal oriented by the early 90s. Listening to Bastards now, and the guitar/bass tones are much more metal than say on Overkill, where they were easier to tell apart and weren't as loud. Also, some of the music just feels darker. Still great stuff, though.



    Just take in the lyrics of this. Lemmy doesn't hold back, speaking of the horrors that most musicians wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole.
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    This got a very good groove.

    • AC/DC rock music: nimeta
    • Nov 18th 2019 edited
     
    something to make people smile I think. Dee Snider first ever solo albums opening track was a tribute to Lemmy...






    I bet Lemmy loved this, especially the lyrics..

    Well, he don't care what people say
    Hardcore metal's here to stay
    And he don't know from right or wrong
    He's hard and hungry, lean and strong
    All right, let's go, yeah right
    You know that he's home out on the road

    PRE-CHORUS:

    Born to lose, not to die
    Ask no questions, tell no lies
    Sworn to fun, heeds the call
    Lives to rock, it's him against them all

    CHORUS:

    He's hardcore (hardcore)
    Harcore (hardcore)
    Nothin' less, nothin' more
    He's hardcore (hardcore)
    Hardcore (hardcore)
    To the death, that's for sure

    The power chord is all he needs
    Kill or be killed his only creed
    While death is certain, life is not
    So he strikes while the iron's hot
    C'mon, let's go, yeah right
    He lives a hard life, it's all he knows
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      AC/DC rock music: DustDevil
    • Nov 18th 2019
     
    That's fuckin SHITE mate. Sounds like BAD NEWS without the jokes.
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    Dee Snider might be a friendly and cool guy, but his image and his band...
    • AC/DC rock music: nimeta
    • Nov 18th 2019
     
    If you take it as a tongue in cheek tribute, and not too seriously, I think its nice. Never the sort of song to play more than once however.
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    They shifted towards metal when Mikkey Dee joined. He was the turning point.
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    Posted By: Badlands66They shifted towards metal when Mikkey Dee joined. He was the turning point.


    Yep.
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    Posted By: Badlands66They shifted towards metal when Mikkey Dee joined. He was the turning point.
    Yeah, but I wouldn’t say it was JUST because of that. Bastards was incredibly loud production-wise to me, and though Motorhead’s always been a loud band, it just began to come across differently. The sound was much bigger and a bit less unique, though the songwriting was very similar for the most part, and that’s what matters.
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    Posted By: MyCubiclePenguin
    Posted By: Badlands66They shifted towards metal when Mikkey Dee joined. He was the turning point.
    Yeah, but I wouldn’t say it was JUST because of that. Bastards was incredibly loud production-wise to me, and though Motorhead’s always been a loud band, it just began to come across differently. The sound was much bigger and a bit less unique, though the songwriting was very similar for the most part, and that’s what matters.
    You can actually tell that they gravitated towards metal on the prior album March or Die on a number of tracks, with Tommy Aldrige on drums.
    The shift came there in a way, but it was really pronounced on Bastards of course. Mikkey is a metal drummer, he does not know how to emulate the swing that rock drummers like Phil Taylor or Rudd (for that matter) possesses, this was incidentally the reason why setlist staple “Motorhead” was dropped, Mikkey could never make it sound right.
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    They became faster and lost a lot of the swing from the old days, but they were always labled metal with a punk - later thrash metal -influence. Remember metal in the 70s was blues based heavy rock, like Deep Purple and Zeppelin, even Hendrix is sometimes seen as i pioneer of the genre. And to the guy not thinking Motorhead could be melodic: try singing some of their songs with a normal voice and notice that they are often quite melodic, or go listen to the On Parole album.
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      AC/DC rock music: azel
    • Nov 21st 2019
     
    I've only ever heard Rock 'N' Roll when I listen to Motorhead.
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    Posted By: soulstripper666They became faster and lost a lot of the swing from the old days, but they were always labled metal with a punk - later thrash metal -influence. Remember metal in the 70s was blues based heavy rock, like Deep Purple and Zeppelin, even Hendrix is sometimes seen as i pioneer of the genre. And to the guy not thinking Motorhead could be melodic: try singing some of their songs with a normal voice and notice that they are often quite melodic, or go listen to the On Parole album.


    So true about the punk element in early MH. In terms of attitude and 'feel' Motorhead S/T reminds me more of the Damned than Purple or Led Zep.

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      AC/DC rock music: Treehorn
    • Nov 23rd 2019
     
    Speaking of the Damned and Motörhead:



    Saw the Damned support them a few times
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    One More Fucking Time. What a tune.
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    As a huge Motörhead fan I’d like to recommend some albums for casual or even non fans

    Bomber- believe it or not this album does get some hate from hardcore fans because it’s sandwiched in between Overkill and Ace of Spades. While it’s not as good as those 2 albums it’s still a great album in its own right and it has some awesome songs on it

    Iron Fist- this was considered a let down when it was first released because it wasn’t as good as Overkill or Ace of Spades and it was the final album with the “classic” lineup but just like Bomber it’s a great album in its own right and there’s some great songs on it

    Another Perfect Day- it’s really great to see that a lot of people on this forum like this album. Some of their best work

    Rock N Roll- kinda hated when it was first released but most fans enjoy it now I say give it a listen

    Bastards- definitely one of their best

    Sacrifice- one of their heaviest albums and a fan favorite

    We are Motörhead- kinda like Rock N Roll it’s been given a lot more love by fans in recent years and much better than the album before and after it

    Inferno- just like APD it’s really great to see so many people enjoy this album

    Honestly I believe that every album Motörhead released is fantastic Even their worst album has at least 5-6 good songs on it, but because they made 22 albums it’s really hard to choose the best one especially when they’re all good. For live albums No Sleep Till Hammersmith is amazing and I rank it up there with IYWB for the greatest live album of all time. Lemmy was truly a god he knew how to right kickass songs and albums and there was never any bullshit with this band
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    Posted By: Jake VitaleBomber- believe it or not this album does get some hate from hardcore fans because it’s sandwiched in between Overkill and Ace of Spades. While it’s not as good as those 2 albums it’s still a great album in its own right and it has some awesome songs on it
    Really? I bought the 2019 40th anniversary version of it just about 2 weeks ago and it's ALL I've been playing in the car. It's not as consistently great as Overkill, and not quite as stylistically phenomenal as Ace of Spades, but I put it right up there with them. Only two weak tracks for me are All the Aces and Talking Head, and even then the musicianship on them is wonderful. Stone Dead Forever might just be their best song IMO. Seems the band didn't think so, as I can't find any live versions of it past the Bomber tour.
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    Posted By: MyCubiclePenguin
    Posted By: Jake VitaleBomber- believe it or not this album does get some hate from hardcore fans because it’s sandwiched in between Overkill and Ace of Spades. While it’s not as good as those 2 albums it’s still a great album in its own right and it has some awesome songs on it
    Really? I bought the 2019 40th anniversary version of it just about 2 weeks ago and it's ALL I've been playing in the car. It's not as consistently great as Overkill, and not quite as stylistically phenomenal as Ace of Spades, but I put it right up there with them. Only two weak tracks for me are All the Aces and Talking Head, and even then the musicianship on them is wonderful. Stone Dead Forever might just be their best song IMO. Seems the band didn't think so, as I can't find any live versions of it past the Bomber tour.


    Stone Dead Forever was played live an estimated 20-25 times throughout 1980 and rumored to have been played a couple of times in 1998 though no proof of that exists. It’s also possible that they did it in late 1979 but again no proof exists. At one of the shows in 1980 lemmy dedicated the song to Bon. As for Bomber, in today’s time most fans have warmed up to it and it’s usually considered to be one of their five best albums. Almost no fan will say anything bad about it now.

    Here’s the video of lemmy dedicating the song to Bon

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      AC/DC rock music: azel
    • Feb 21st 2020
     
    Posted By: MyCubiclePenguin
    Posted By: Jake VitaleBomber- believe it or not this album does get some hate from hardcore fans because it’s sandwiched in between Overkill and Ace of Spades. While it’s not as good as those 2 albums it’s still a great album in its own right and it has some awesome songs on it
    Really? I bought the 2019 40th anniversary version of it just about 2 weeks ago and it's ALL I've been playing in the car. It's not as consistently great as Overkill, and not quite as stylistically phenomenal as Ace of Spades, but I put it right up there with them. Only two weak tracks for me are All the Aces and Talking Head, and even then the musicianship on them is wonderful. Stone Dead Forever might just be their best song IMO. Seems the band didn't think so, as I can't find any live versions of it past the Bomber tour.


    In my opinion, Bomber is one of their best. I'm very biased as I lean towards that "classic" lineup over all else, and the Bomber tour was my first live Motorhead experience. But even now, its a turn to album.

    For me:

    1. Overkill
    2. Ace of spades
    3. Bomber
    • AC/DC rock music: nimeta
    • Feb 21st 2020
     
    here is a little Motörhead treat that not everybody has heard...

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      AC/DC rock music: azel
    • Feb 21st 2020
     
    Posted By: Jake Vitale
    Posted By: MyCubiclePenguin
    Posted By: Jake VitaleBomber- believe it or not this album does get some hate from hardcore fans because it’s sandwiched in between Overkill and Ace of Spades. While it’s not as good as those 2 albums it’s still a great album in its own right and it has some awesome songs on it
    Really? I bought the 2019 40th anniversary version of it just about 2 weeks ago and it's ALL I've been playing in the car. It's not as consistently great as Overkill, and not quite as stylistically phenomenal as Ace of Spades, but I put it right up there with them. Only two weak tracks for me are All the Aces and Talking Head, and even then the musicianship on them is wonderful. Stone Dead Forever might just be their best song IMO. Seems the band didn't think so, as I can't find any live versions of it past the Bomber tour.


    Stone Dead Forever was played live an estimated 20-25 times throughout 1980 and rumored to have been played a couple of times in 1998 though no proof of that exists. It’s also possible that they did it in late 1979 but again no proof exists. At one of the shows in 1980 lemmy dedicated the song to Bon. As for Bomber, in today’s time most fans have warmed up to it and it’s usually considered to be one of their five best albums. Almost no fan will say anything bad about it now.

    Here’s the video of lemmy dedicating the song to Bon




    There used to a thing on the Motorhead website called "Ask Lemmy", where fans could ask a question, and get Lemmy's answer! he always spoke very fondly of AC/DC and Bon when questioned.