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      AC/DC rock music: Zan
    • Nov 11th 2020 edited
     
    I don't mind them, they have a couple of really good songs.
    But I would never compare them to the all-time great rock bands.
    They were a good singles band in the 00's, but that super-safe kid friendly stuff they do today is not anything I care for.
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      AC/DC rock music: 7seven
    • Nov 11th 2020
     
    Posted By: BillyBollocksThe Wildhearts are twenty times more interesting musically than the Foo Fighters could ever dream of being

    Complete polar opposites to my ears

    Which is also why they never broke big of course

    What a fucking GREAT band they are though .


    Can we say "29 times" better ;-)

    Cheers
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      AC/DC rock music: Rajd07
    • Nov 11th 2020 edited
     
    That new song, not so different from what they've been doing the last decades. Lame, lame, lame
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    Posted By: 7seven
    Posted By: BillyBollocksThe Wildhearts are twenty times more interesting musically than the Foo Fighters could ever dream of being

    Complete polar opposites to my ears

    Which is also why they never broke big of course

    What a fucking GREAT band they are though .


    Can we say "29 times" better ;-)

    Cheers


    Ha!
    • AC/DC rock music: mdm90
    • Nov 11th 2020
     
    I like some of their tunes, never loved them. But I'm not really digging the new single much.
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      AC/DC rock music: Zan
    • Nov 11th 2020
     
    I think they're pretty good when they do that sound they had on songs like Learn to Fly and Long Road to Ruin. That's clearly how the band is supposed to sound.
    They could be a good lesson in why changing your sound isn't the best idea.
    The new song is trite.
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      AC/DC rock music: Brads AC/DC
    • Nov 11th 2020 edited
     
    Posted By: ZanThey could be a good lesson in why changing your sound isn't the best idea.


    Yes. Good point.
    • AC/DC rock music: mdm90
    • Nov 11th 2020
     
    That's why I always think it's funny when I hear people say ACDC never changes their sound and use it as a negative, I feel like the same exact people get pissed when their favorite band does something different
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      AC/DC rock music: Zan
    • Nov 12th 2020
     
    Posted By: mdm90That's why I always think it's funny when I hear people say ACDC never changes their sound and use it as a negative, I feel like the same exact people get pissed when their favorite band does something different


    I think it's just something people like to say, that all AC/DC sound the same when it really doesn't. All albums are different from each other, AC/DC are just incredibly good at staying coherent. When you have a signature sound, why throw it away?

    Even bands like Rolling Stones and U2 who have been very experimental went back to their trademark sound in the end, to reclaim critical success.

    Beatles, the most famous sound changers of all time, also went back to basics in the end on tracks like Get Back and Come Together. Even if they pulled it off with evolving their sound (and pushed the boundaries of pop music) they did it because the material they had was incredible. If you have shitty material (like the new FF song) you won't save it with changing your sound and "experimenting".
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    I don't hate them. They're just a bland band to me. Plus you gotta have classic tunes. They have a few good ones, but no real classics.
    All the great live shows in the world can't make up for having classic tunes.
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      AC/DC rock music: Zan
    • Nov 12th 2020
     
    Posted By: beanofire Plus you gotta have classic tunes. They have a few good ones, but no real classics.
    All the great live shows in the world can't make up for having classic tunes.

    That might depend on when you're born. I grew up in the 90's and 00's, and I'd say that Best of You and Times Like These were some of the biggest rock songs released during my teens. Inescapable radio hits that almost everyone I knew liked, at least where I'm from.
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    Posted By: Zan
    Posted By: beanofirePlus you gotta have classic tunes. They have a few good ones, but no real classics.
    All the great live shows in the world can't make up for having classic tunes.

    That might depend on when you're born. I grew up in the 90's and 00's, and I'd say that Best of You and Times Like These were some of the biggest rock songs released during my teens. Inescapable radio hits that almost everyone I knew liked, at least where I'm from.


    Definitely to do with when you were born. Hardly raised a ripple in my pond.
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      AC/DC rock music: Zan
    • Nov 12th 2020
     
    Posted By: beanofire
    Posted By: Zan
    Posted By: beanofirePlus you gotta have classic tunes. They have a few good ones, but no real classics.
    All the great live shows in the world can't make up for having classic tunes.

    That might depend on when you're born. I grew up in the 90's and 00's, and I'd say that Best of You and Times Like These were some of the biggest rock songs released during my teens. Inescapable radio hits that almost everyone I knew liked, at least where I'm from.


    Definitely to do with when you were born. Hardly raised a ripple in my pond.


    Back in the day in Sweden, we had a Swedish version of MTV called ZTV which played a lot of music videos.
    Foo Fighters were one of the biggest rock bands on the channel with many videos in rotation.
    They're totally massive in Sweden and have been so for around 20 years now.
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      AC/DC rock music: Inferno
    • Nov 12th 2020
     
    Posted By: ZanThey're totally massive in Sweden and have been so for around 20 years now.


    Same just about everywhere.
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    Posted By: InfernoSame just about everywhere.


    Even in Madagascar? Thailand?? Belarus???
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      AC/DC rock music: Inferno
    • Nov 12th 2020
     
    Posted By: mutt_langes_perm
    Posted By: InfernoSame just about everywhere.


    Even in Madagascar? Thailand?? Belarus???


    You ask a LOT of questions. : )
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    Strangely enough, I'm starting to like this song. I feel like the studio version (especially Dave's vocals) sounds a lot a better than the live version they did on SNL.



    In other news,

    AC/DC's Realize (audio only) has around 1.2 million views on Youtube since yesterday (#10 trending)
    while the Foo Fighters' Shame Shame (official video) has around 779K views after being released a day earlier (#46 trending).
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      AC/DC rock music: youngjohn
    • Nov 13th 2020
     
    In today's shock news: personal preferences are personal!

    Musical tastes and preferences are as subjective as any other tastes. Not quite sure why people get so riled up about it. You will rarely persuade someone that something they enjoy is "wrong" (unless it is also morally wrong).

    Dave Grohl is a nice guy. Foo Fighters are OK, sometimes really good. Seem better live than in the studio. Only opinions.
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    Posted By: youngjohnIn today's shock news: personal preferences are personal!

    Musical tastes and preferences are as subjective as any other tastes. Not quite sure why people get so riled up about it. You will rarely persuade someone that something they enjoy is "wrong" (unless it is also morally wrong).

    Dave Grohl is a nice guy. Foo Fighters are OK, sometimes really good. Seem better live than in the studio. Only opinions.


    Agreed, but weird coming from the guy who just posted "There's a fair few moany bastards on here. Best ignored." on the Power Up thread about people that were being constructively critical of the album.
    • AC/DC rock music: bonrosie
    • Nov 13th 2020
     
    Bland and overrated. All rock and no roll. That’s why I don’t like them.
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    Posted By: bonrosieBland and overrated. All rock and no roll. That’s why I don’t like them.


    This is a concise and rational evaluation of the band. Can we end the thread on that note?
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      AC/DC rock music: Zan
    • Nov 15th 2020
     
    Posted By: bonrosieAll rock and no roll.

    Well put.
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      AC/DC rock music: Inferno
    • Nov 15th 2020 edited
     
    If Foo Fighters had written Through The Mists of Time, it would have been bashed to no end on this board as bland rock n roll (excuse me, just rock) for soccer moms. Oh well.
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      AC/DC rock music: Rajd07
    • Nov 15th 2020 edited
     
    Posted By: InfernoIf Foo Fighters had written Through The Mists of Time, it would have been bashed to no end on this board as bland rock n roll (excuse me, just rock) for soccer moms. Oh well.


    First of all, it's a good song. FF could probably do a decent version of it. If they made it sound like the original it would be the rocker on any FF non rock album of today..
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    I don't like Foo Fighters - but this forum has a weird collective hate of a lot of great bands.
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      AC/DC rock music: Zan
    • Nov 16th 2020 edited
     
    Posted By: PowerRagedI don't like Foo Fighters - but this forum has a weird collective hate of a lot of great bands.

    The only band I "hate" is Greta Van Fleet because I find their music offensive and the singer's face punchable.
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      AC/DC rock music: Thankass
    • Nov 16th 2020
     
    Posted By: Zan
    Posted By: PowerRagedI don't like Foo Fighters - but this forum has a weird collective hate of a lot of great bands.

    The only band I "hate" is Greta Van Fleet because I find their music offensive and the singer's face punchable.
    Well, i'll take Greta Van Fleet's Zep like R&R over Foo Fighters bland generic rock any day of the week.
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      AC/DC rock music: Zan
    • Nov 16th 2020
     
    At least FF has their own sound compared to being a diluted rip-off like GVF.
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      AC/DC rock music: Thankass
    • Nov 16th 2020
     
    Posted By: ZanAt least FF has their own sound compared to being a diluted rip-off like GVF.
    But it's the sound i like. Not if it's original. Stones and AC/DC use a lot of classic R&R in their back catalogue. Not original but great to listen to.
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      AC/DC rock music: Zan
    • Nov 16th 2020
     
    I'd let it slide if it wasn't for the singer imitating Robert Plant whilst looking like a total dickhead.
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    Posted By: Thankass
    Posted By: ZanAt least FF has their own sound compared to being a diluted rip-off like GVF.
    But it's the sound i like. Not if it's original. Stones and AC/DC use a lot of classic R&R in their back catalogue. Not original but great to listen to.
    The Stones and ACDC both took classic rnr and made their own thing with it. The simple fact that they both used those sort of riffs and song structures, yet sound nothing alike as bands, says a lot. Let it Bleed sounds completely different than LTBR, and so on... the Stones mixed rock n roll with country, gospel, and blues, and were very laid back. ACDC mixed rock n roll with hard rock and blues, and gave it an extreme dose of energy. GVF sound practically *identical* to Zeppelin, even down to the guy's voice. Why not just listen to Zeppelin, then? I'm not knocking you for liking GVF, but I think a good portion of us would simply rather listen to Zeppelin if we want that particular style.
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      AC/DC rock music: Thankass
    • Nov 16th 2020
     
    Posted By: MyCubiclePenguin
    Posted By: Thankass
    Posted By: ZanAt least FF has their own sound compared to being a diluted rip-off like GVF.
    But it's the sound i like. Not if it's original. Stones and AC/DC use a lot of classic R&R in their back catalogue. Not original but great to listen to.
    The Stones and ACDC both took classic rnr and made their own thing with it. The simple fact that they both used those sort of riffs and song structures, yet sound nothing alike as bands, says a lot. Let it Bleed sounds completely different than LTBR, and so on... the Stones mixed rock n roll with country, gospel, and blues, and were very laid back. ACDC mixed rock n roll with hard rock and blues, and gave it an extreme dose of energy. GVF sound practically *identical* to Zeppelin, even down to the guy's voice. Why not just listen to Zeppelin, then? I'm not knocking you for liking GVF, but I think a good portion of us would simply rather listen to Zeppelin if we want that particular style.


    I listen to GvF AND Zep because i like the sort/genre of songs. They are not the same band but play the same kind of music. I wouldn't know why i must choose between the 2. I can listen to AC/DC 12 bar boogie AND Chuck Berry. They are not the same band but they sometimes play the same kind of classic R&R (i'm talking R&R style AC/DC, not FTATR style AC/DC). Chuck (and other older blues guys) did it first. I don't blame AC/DC for not being original by having a go with that material on some songs. That was the point. I don't care for The Foo Fighters bland generic rock sound. Even if it would be original.
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      AC/DC rock music: Rocco
    • Nov 16th 2020
     
    Posted By: MyCubiclePenguin
    Posted By: Thankass
    Posted By: ZanAt least FF has their own sound compared to being a diluted rip-off like GVF.
    But it's the sound i like. Not if it's original. Stones and AC/DC use a lot of classic R&R in their back catalogue. Not original but great to listen to.
    The Stones and ACDC both took classic rnr and made their own thing with it. The simple fact that they both used those sort of riffs and song structures, yet sound nothing alike as bands, says a lot. Let it Bleed sounds completely different than LTBR, and so on... the Stones mixed rock n roll with country, gospel, and blues, and were very laid back. ACDC mixed rock n roll with hard rock and blues, and gave it an extreme dose of energy. GVF sound practically *identical* to Zeppelin, even down to the guy's voice. Why not just listen to Zeppelin, then? I'm not knocking you for liking GVF, but I think a good portion of us would simply rather listen to Zeppelin if we want that particular style.


    Very true. But there's also the fact that nowadays in rock music it is much much more difficult to get a sound of yourself as a it was when the Stones or AC/DC started out. Basically every riff has already been written, every vocal melody too. So it's not always a easy task to sound original. In that regard I take a band like FF any day over GVF since the FF are the FF and atleast to me don't really sound like anybody else.
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      AC/DC rock music: Thankass
    • Nov 16th 2020
     
    Rocco, how does your band sound? More like FF or more like AC/DC?
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      AC/DC rock music: Rocco
    • Nov 16th 2020
     
    Posted By: ThankassRocco, how does your band sound? More like FF or more like AC/DC?


    The Who.
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    Posted By: Rocco
    Posted By: MyCubiclePenguin
    Posted By: Thankass
    Posted By: ZanAt least FF has their own sound compared to being a diluted rip-off like GVF.
    But it's the sound i like. Not if it's original. Stones and AC/DC use a lot of classic R&R in their back catalogue. Not original but great to listen to.
    The Stones and ACDC both took classic rnr and made their own thing with it. The simple fact that they both used those sort of riffs and song structures, yet sound nothing alike as bands, says a lot. Let it Bleed sounds completely different than LTBR, and so on... the Stones mixed rock n roll with country, gospel, and blues, and were very laid back. ACDC mixed rock n roll with hard rock and blues, and gave it an extreme dose of energy. GVF sound practically *identical* to Zeppelin, even down to the guy's voice. Why not just listen to Zeppelin, then? I'm not knocking you for liking GVF, but I think a good portion of us would simply rather listen to Zeppelin if we want that particular style.


    Very true. But there's also the fact that nowadays in rock music it is much much more difficult to get a sound of yourself as a it was when the Stones or AC/DC started out. Basically every riff has already been written, every vocal melody too.
    Ehhh, not sure I totally buy that. Sure, shitloads of riffs and melodies have already been written, but there's so much more to a *song* than just those factors, though ACDC seems to have forgotten that in the last 20 years. There are plenty of things you can do with ideas, in regards to structure, instrumentation, time signatures... of course this delves into prog a little bit, but there are limitless possibilities in that realm. Just depends on how far you wanna go with it.

    Posted By: Thankass
    Posted By: MyCubiclePenguin
    Posted By: Thankass
    Posted By: ZanAt least FF has their own sound compared to being a diluted rip-off like GVF.
    But it's the sound i like. Not if it's original. Stones and AC/DC use a lot of classic R&R in their back catalogue. Not original but great to listen to.
    The Stones and ACDC both took classic rnr and made their own thing with it. The simple fact that they both used those sort of riffs and song structures, yet sound nothing alike as bands, says a lot. Let it Bleed sounds completely different than LTBR, and so on... the Stones mixed rock n roll with country, gospel, and blues, and were very laid back. ACDC mixed rock n roll with hard rock and blues, and gave it an extreme dose of energy. GVF sound practically *identical* to Zeppelin, even down to the guy's voice. Why not just listen to Zeppelin, then? I'm not knocking you for liking GVF, but I think a good portion of us would simply rather listen to Zeppelin if we want that particular style.


    I listen to GvF AND Zep because i like the sort/genre of songs. They are not the same band but play the same kind of music. I wouldn't know why i must choose between the 2. I can listen to AC/DC 12 bar boogie AND Chuck Berry. They are not the same band but they sometimes play the same kind of classic R&R (i'm talking R&R style AC/DC, not FTATR style AC/DC). Chuck (and other older blues guys) did it first. I don't blame AC/DC for not being original by having a go with that material on some songs. That was the point. I don't care for The Foo Fighters bland generic rock sound. Even if it would be original.
    I'm not saying you have to chose one or the other, but if I want music that sounds like Zeppelin, I'm gonna listen to Zeppelin. Yes, ACDC had many similarities to Chuck Berry in their early days, but that faded rather quickly, and those early records have plenty of classic material anyways. It's a Long Way to the Top, Live Wire, Problem Child, Jailbreak... sounds like ACDC to me, not Chuck Berry.
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      AC/DC rock music: Thankass
    • Nov 16th 2020
     
    Posted By: Rocco
    Posted By: ThankassRocco, how does your band sound? More like FF or more like AC/DC?


    The Who.
    Nice
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      AC/DC rock music: Thankass
    • Nov 16th 2020 edited
     
    Posted By: MyCubiclePenguinYes, ACDC had many similarities to Chuck Berry in their early days,
    Correct. And i like that sort of music, so i listen to both (and Status Quo for that matter). Not original but that doesn't matter.

    Posted By: MyCubiclePenguinbut if I want music that sounds like Zeppelin, I'm gonna listen to Zeppelin
    Yes. And to bands that sound like 'm. I won't despise them for being copy cats.

    Posted By: MyCubiclePenguinIt's a Long Way to the Top, Live Wire, Problem Child, Jailbreak... sounds like ACDC to me, not Chuck Berry.
    Correct. They sound like AC/DC. Very nice!
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      AC/DC rock music: Riekuzz
    • Nov 16th 2020
     
    I don't bother the Foo Fighters. A view good tracks, great singer and cool band. The new song sounds like shit tho. At least it's a band with a big fanbase from younger music fans, at some point they all find out who wrote Let There Be Rock that they covered a while ago.
    • AC/DC rock music: trueblue
    • Nov 24th 2020
     
    Posted By: Rocco
    Posted By: ThankassRocco, how does your band sound? More like FF or more like AC/DC?


    The Who are waaaaaaaaaay better than any crappy FF......it's like comparing s**t with pure chocolate ....and guess which is the s**t :):):)

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