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      CommentAuthorbonlives
    • CommentTimeSep 19th 2009 edited
     

    New acdcfans.net site feature now available - AC/DC Autographs


    This has been launched in response to the high number of fake autographs in circulation.

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      CommentAuthorbonlives
    • CommentTimeOct 6th 2009
     
    Throwing this open for discussion. Please keep all comments on topic and refrain from identifying any particular seller(s) by name or eBay ident. We know there are scumbags out there, and we know who they are, but I don't need the legal grief of a claim for libel. So, anything I or the mods deem to be libellous, has to be removed. Sorry, but that's the reality of the litigious age in which we live. And for those who don't have a friggin clue what I'm saying, just don't say anything...
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      CommentAuthorbonlives
    • CommentTimeOct 6th 2009
     
    I'm deeply passionate about alerting people to the huge amount of fake signed shit out there. I care nothing for the sellers who knowingly peddle this crap - I hope you all rot in hell. A bit thumbs up to Bill has to go out for kicking this off - one of the few people who can spot a fake with his eyes closed. And a big thanks to Martin, who helped me pull this feature together.
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    great feature - wouldn't buy anything already autographed myself, as for me, I prefer to get stuff autographed myself. But I think it's a great resource for fans who are interested in buying this stuff.....
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      CommentAuthorGoZone
    • CommentTimeDec 7th 2009 edited
     


     


     


    That is real ,I got all of them myseld, you can use this for verification...I can take a better pic if you want

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      CommentAuthorbonlives
    • CommentTimeDec 7th 2009
     

    100% real GZ - but only good for verification of autographs this current tour. The band's signatures have changed heaps over the years, much the same as everyoon'e does.

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      CommentAuthorbonlives
    • CommentTimeDec 7th 2009
     

    Happy to take a look at anyone's autographs and provide an opinion by the way...

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      CommentAuthorbonlives
    • CommentTimeDec 24th 2009
     

    Bulk update to the AC/DC Autographs page completed - some really nice items in that lot, and as always, some real trash too - you've been warned!


    If anyone has some autographs they'd like checked, post them here!


    Or, if you're a little unsure and want to save yourself the embarassment of possibly owning fakes, "whisper" the pictures using the "whisper your comments to" field above.

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      CommentAuthorGoZone
    • CommentTimeJan 16th 2010
     
    are my autographs the best you have ever seen or whaat?
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      CommentAuthorbonlives
    • CommentTimeJan 16th 2010
     
    LOL not the best I've seen GZ, and I've seen and own some beauties, but your signed LP is 100% legit so they are better than 99.99999999999% of the autographs I've seen on eBay. Makes me sick when I see someone hand over $3000 for a guitar worth $300 which has been scribbled on by someone. Disgusting!
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      CommentAuthorbonlives
    • CommentTimeJan 16th 2010 edited
     
    and of course, the person doing the scribbling sure as hell ain't Angus, Mark, Brian, Cliff or Phil
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      CommentAuthor56Century
    • CommentTimeFeb 20th 2010
     
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      CommentAuthorbonlives
    • CommentTimeMay 5th 2010 edited
     

    Is anyone interested in making $46,000 without doing any real work for it?


    Check out item:  http://cgi.ebay.com.au/AC-DC-x-5-BAND-Hand-Signed-Framed-Guitar-Aust-PROOF-/300420029107?cmd=ViewItem&pt=AU_MusicMemorabilia&hash=item45f26ddab3 


    For the small outlay of $4,600 you can own a completely worthless piece of history - BUT, the seller is offering 10 times your money back when you get it authenticated and signed off as being fake - which it clearly is.


    Anyone interested in starting a slush fund and buying this?


    Check out the AC/DC autographs page too - some real great buys in there...

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    I would like $46,000 but I'm not paying $4,600 to get it. But just for kicks and giggles someone should do it.
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      CommentAuthorbonlives
    • CommentTimeMay 6th 2010
     

    Booth - it's not a bad return though is it? And assuming the seller sticks to his word, it's guaranteed as that's the biggest pile of steaming shit guitar I've ever seen


    The pictures included as "proof" aren't even of the guitar being sold...

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    there are always tons of fakes on ebay - does anyone ever really buy these, how do these guys make money?

    Ma-Ma-Money Made, all time great is on parade.
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      CommentAuthorbonlives
    • CommentTimeJul 2nd 2010
     
    Have updated the AC/DC autographs page - lots of fakes floating around, be careful!
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      CommentAuthorbonlives
    • CommentTimeJul 8th 2010
     
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    This is a very useful service.
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      CommentAuthorJem
    • CommentTimeJul 9th 2010
     
    Now if only I had a Harley...
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      CommentAuthorPod
    • CommentTimeJul 9th 2010
     
    There's your first piece. All you got to do is collect the rest.
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      CommentAuthorSaik0
    • CommentTimeJul 12th 2010
     
    Very useful service. To me signed stuff has no value to me personally if it's not me who got it signed.. i mean that it's some kind of a prrof that you have met the guy(s)

    anyway, how do you even see that it's a fake? pretty impressive
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      CommentAuthorPowerage
    • CommentTimeJul 13th 2010
     
    Looking at the user store, looking at the product itself and also looking at the signature. Looking at the first 2 things can easily help you figure if its a scam or not.
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      CommentAuthorbonlives
    • CommentTimeJul 13th 2010
     
    Saik0 - it takes time to learn how each band member signs and how their signatures have changed over time. Like your own signature it's changed over the years and the band members are no different.

    I could tell you some of the dead giveaways to look for, but I'm concerned that will only help the sellers of this shit to improve their fakes.
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    I laughed my ass off when I saw someone trying to sell a Bon Scott Autographed Highway To Hell CD.

    Some people are so stupid...
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      CommentAuthorbonlives
    • CommentTimeJul 13th 2010
     
    nitro - bang on the money. Everyone here ought to know why that's clearly a fake without even needing to be told....
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    Exactly.
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    Its almost as dumb as that 'Bon Scott Singin Back In Black Demo!' videos up on youtube.
    • CommentAuthorsthing666
    • CommentTimeAug 19th 2010
     
    Anyone knows a reliable on line store where I can buy signed stuff? I am fed up of searching Ebay only to find out here that the signatures are fake. Many thanks!
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      CommentAuthorbonlives
    • CommentTimeAug 19th 2010
     
    sthing666 - welcome to the forum!

    Is there anything in particular you're chasing? ie a signed LP cover? guitar? other memorabilia?
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      CommentAuthorbonlives
    • CommentTimeAug 19th 2010
     
    I'd say 99.9% of stuff on ebay is fake, but the odd diamond does come up.

    If you add some ebay listings you're looking at in the Autographs section (see the top menu), I'll take a look and provide an opinion.

    There's a couple of sites online that do sell authentic stuff... autographpros.com is one such site. However, I did see a picture on ebay that featured the exact same autographs that were featured on a guitar being sold by autographpros. I contacted them about it and they completely ignored me.

    So, without a response on what the story might be, I was left thinking that they (the picture seller, autographpros, or both (if they're one and the same company)) *could perhaps* be trading it autopen autographs - ie using a machine to draw autographs onto items using authentic examples as the stencil.

    This is a bit of a worry as I'd never seen this before.
    • CommentAuthorsthing666
    • CommentTimeAug 19th 2010
     
    Many thanks, mate. I am looking for a signed LP cover. Johnson era, as I think my wallet will not have enough cash for a Bon Scott signed one!
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      CommentAuthorbonlives
    • CommentTimeAug 19th 2010
     
    No problem mate. I'll take a look later on tonight and point you towards something that is legit and that I would put my own money on the line for.
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      CommentAuthorbonlives
    • CommentTimeAug 19th 2010
     
    All band members? or just one or two members in particular? and from which band line-up? slade? rudd? wright?
    • CommentAuthorsthing666
    • CommentTimeAug 19th 2010
     
    Again, many thanks. After nearly 6 months of looking on ebay I got fed up. There was a beautiful Back in Black cover signed, but it was framed and glued to the mat!
    • CommentAuthorsthing666
    • CommentTimeAug 19th 2010
     
    A full band signed Back in Black or Black Ice cover would be great.
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      CommentAuthorbonlives
    • CommentTimeAug 19th 2010
     
    Can you remember the ebay item number of the Back In Black LP you were looking at? or have you got pictures of the item?

    I've just had a scan through ebay and there's a handful of legitimate signatures - the vast majority are fakes.

    I'll put together a summary and get back to you
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      CommentAuthorbonlives
    • CommentTimeAug 19th 2010
     
    Back in Black would be harder to come by.

    There's quite a few Black Ice signed LPs in circulation given the recent tour, so that's your best bet.
    • CommentAuthorsthing666
    • CommentTimeAug 19th 2010
     
    You are right. And I guess Black Ice will also be cheaper than Back in Black. I am just trying to see a copy signed by the full band on ebay. It seems that Phil Rudd avoids signing stuff.

    The Back in Black cover I looked at but was glued when framed:

    http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170521582266&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:AU:1123
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      CommentAuthorPowerage
    • CommentTimeAug 19th 2010
     
    Posted By: sthing666You are right. And I guess Black Ice will also be cheaper than Back in Black. I am just trying to see a copy signed by the full band on ebay. It seems that Phil Rudd avoids signing stuff.

    The Back in Black cover I looked at but was glued when framed:

    http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170521582266&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:AU:1123


    Yeah, you're more likely to get a left hook from him than a signature. I guess we love him for that though ;D.

    Or

    He may have signed a shitload of crap and kept it in his house for when he dies. When he kicks the bucket BAM his kids hit that shit up on eBay. Quite a smart inheritance.
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      CommentAuthorbonlives
    • CommentTimeAug 19th 2010
     
    sthing666 - that Back In Black LP was/is fake! One of the better fakes, but a fake.
    • CommentAuthorsthing666
    • CommentTimeAug 19th 2010 edited
     
    Posted By: bonlivessthing666 - that Back In Black LP was/is fake! One of the better fakes, but a fake.


    Thank God I did not go for that one!!!!
    • CommentAuthorsthing666
    • CommentTimeAug 19th 2010
     
    The Black in Black signed cover seller states that the singnatures have been authenticated by two forensic handwriting examiners! All this "authentication" industry (PSA/DNA, JSA, etc.) seems to be bullshit??
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      CommentAuthorbonlives
    • CommentTimeAug 19th 2010
     
    The seller can say what he/she likes but it's still fake mate. If that LP caught fire I wouldn't even waste my time urinating on it to put the flames out. I recently was asked about a Dirty Deeds LP cover that was signed by all the band including Bon. Was "authenticated" by a forensic specialist... sounded fucking great, until I pointed out it was a 1981 US pressing. Forensic specialist my arse! Regarding PSA/DNA - those guys are pretty good to be honest, but I have seen items that have passed through their hands that are bogus. But, the vast majority of the stuff they pass is the real deal.
    • CommentAuthorsthing666
    • CommentTimeAug 19th 2010
     
    Thanks for the info, mate. And good to know about PSA/DNA.
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      CommentAuthorbonlives
    • CommentTimeAug 20th 2010
     
    sthing66 - have a read of this*: http://autographmagazine.com/2010/03/christopher-morales-forgery-authenticator/

    The same authenticator of the Back in Black LP, and the Dirty Deeds LP I spoke about above.

    * This article is written by someone else, not me. Accordingly it's their opinion.

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