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      CommentAuthorBFET
    • CommentTimeMay 25th 2010 edited
     
    Crispy/Nitro: How bout mastering Let it Loose and Alright Tonight?

    Give it a go and see what happens. I know that this is probably an impossible task, but it seems like it would be interesting if you tried this. Obviously I'm not saying to make it HTH production quality, but it would be cool to see if you guys could clean these tracks up a bit. WHADDAYA THINK!?

    Winner gets Jessica Biel for the weekend.

    ^^^This picture has undeniable relevancy to MY thread.^^^
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    I'll try...
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      CommentAuthorBFET
    • CommentTimeMay 25th 2010
     
    ...haha I know its practically impossible, but it sure would separate the men from the boys. Might as well take a swing at Messin with the Kid too, while you're at it. You're job on SINYC was quite impressive, so I'm kickin' it up a notch.
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      CommentAuthorcrispyvenom
    • CommentTimeMay 25th 2010 edited
     
    I could do Messin' easily...

    I'm trying AT right now...it hard...
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    Trying messin' now...these are really hard to do because of the crappy recordings...
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    I've already done Messin' With The Kid




    Uploaded it in HD to give best quality visuals,even though it's just a VHS rip
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    Of course,I didn't do much to it,because I just wanted to upload it at the time,I might take another crack at it.

    BFET:

    I actually was just going to do what you've asked,try to improve Let It Loose and Alright Tonight.I'm thinking the doubling of tracks and Equalizing it like I did with the albums should help a lot,I'll see what I can do soon.
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    The trouble with those tracks is that the vocals are so buried, the guitars are on top of them so any guitar 'cancellation' takes away from the vocals...
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    Nitro, what do you mean when you Double the tracks? when i do it (i use wavepad alot BTW) i just go into a noise reducer until i get the vocal/guitar mix right, but, I'd like to know your method...if your not afraid of giving away the secret recipe ;)
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    No secret really,I can tell my method but it can't be copied exactly unless you've got my exact EQ settings ;)

    I Equalize the track I'm editing,and then layer the original un-touched track over it.

    So what you get is the equalized vocals that are much louder and the guitars and other instruments from the un-touched track sound basically the same or better.It keeps them from being quiet like in my first mixes I posted and not so "dry" sounding.



    That's what method all my "Fan" mixed albums were done with,I can't say my settings though,I'd have to kill you

    Haha

    I use Audacity Beta 1.3

    Also,I agree the vocals are almost "blurry" in Messin' With Kid,very hard to improve.
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    and for what it's worth,

    All boots and songs I edit are lossless,so I can have as little digital noise as possible,when using mp3's I tend to hear the noise and It really irritates me.

    I got a FLAC Flick Tour Rehearsals from Black Ice Bootlegs,it's the exact same speed as the video so it's no issue syncing if you're curious.
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    Waiting for carlos or someone to complain about all the technical mumbo jumbo,haha
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    Damn it's hard to do anything with Alright Tonight and Let It Loose

    It's seriously almost impossible,I'm going to keep trying but I can't get it to sound much different
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      CommentAuthorBFET
    • CommentTimeMay 25th 2010
     
    Don't give up. Jessica Biel awaits!
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    Oh yeah,lol

    Can't afford to lose that ;)
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    don't hold your breath Nitro on the Biel front. nothing is guaranteed more to have her running for the hills than the prospect of long and deep conversations about lossless rips, FLAC's and EQ settings...
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    Ha^

    I'd like to FLAC her
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    Alright Nitro, thats what i figured. i do kind of the same except i create two seperate EQed mixes and put them together. i also try to use Noise Reduction on Wavepad to remove some of the Guitar and/or vocals i don't want. as for these Demos, I'm afraid there isnt much that can be done, because of the quality of the vocals. i can make it sound somewhat cleaner, but the vocals are way to buried to bring them out so to speak, but i'll keep trying. i'm going to be doing Borrowed Time, Borderline, and Snake eyes sometime too...
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    Also going to do Borrowed Time ect.

    It's not so much as they're buried,it's the echo/crappy quality of the demo

    I've not gave up yet,but I'm really doubting I can fix them much
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    Yeah i havent gave up yet. i can make the instrumentals sound great, but the vocals are the problem.
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    Same,I was almost thinking about canceling Brian out completely and making them instrumentals
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    still being processed so crappy quality, but in a ffew minutes it should be good.
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      CommentAuthornitroangus23
    • CommentTimeMay 26th 2010 edited
     
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    the quality seems to be normal now. check it out!
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      CommentAuthorcrispyvenom
    • CommentTimeMay 26th 2010 edited
     
    .
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    I can't tell much of a difference,but maybe it's just me.Sounds great regardless
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    If your talking about the Borrowed Time, it was the original, i made a mistake, but DOTB i got rid of alot of guitar echo, and brought the drums up and cleaned up their sound in the mix. i tried to clear up the vocals a bit too.
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      CommentAuthorBFET
    • CommentTimeMay 26th 2010
     
    DOTB sounds great! Brians vocals sound a little less echoy. Good form. I'd imagine theres some software out there to make AT & LIL a little better. Something more than equalizations...
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    I'd imagine Adobe Audition could do more,I had it once but deleted it to free up space on my hard drive.

    It's also confusing/complicated

    Maybe we need to find someone with a little more knowledge on this stuff than me and Crispy.
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    Anyone got Mutt Lange's phone number?
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      CommentAuthorBFET
    • CommentTimeMay 26th 2010 edited
     
    Quitters... YOU are the only hope! Just put something up from those 2 songs and well critique ya thru it.
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    Hey,I didn't say I was quitting,

    YOU asked for it,

    I'll start back at it right now.

    In the mean time enjoy these,

    http://www.youtube.com/user/nitroangus23#grid/user/E54859A21EFBE226
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    can't you two (nitro and crispy) get a room by yourselves somewhere...its a bit like Step Brothers ;-)
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      CommentAuthorPod
    • CommentTimeMay 27th 2010
     
    They're like a younger you and me Carlos.
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    bless 'em
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    Not into dudes,sorry to spoil' your party ;)
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    Two's Up rocks.
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      CommentAuthorBFET
    • CommentTimeMay 27th 2010
     
    ^How appropriate...
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      CommentAuthor56Century
    • CommentTimeMay 28th 2010
     
    Burn!
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      CommentAuthorBFET
    • CommentTimeJul 28th 2010
     
    REMINDER BUMPPPPPPPPPP!!!
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    I haven't forgotten!!!

    lol

    As a matter a fact I finally found a Flac version of both songs yesterday and am working on them still.
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      CommentAuthorBFET
    • CommentTimeJul 29th 2010
     
    bump!
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    I've done some stuff to'em today,and I think Alright Tonight sounds the best of the two.

    Just don't expect it to be great.
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    I was working on this yesterday! i almost have it! i have descovered a thing on Wavepad to isolate vocals and drums pretty much, but the quality is so bad it takes alot of editing to make it sound decent. but i haven't forgotten!
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    Alright Tonight would have been freakin' great.
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    Hey crispy,you got Skype?
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    Nah, i'm not in to all that stuff. i don't even have a regular video camera.
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      CommentAuthornitroangus23
    • CommentTimeJul 30th 2010 edited
     
    I don't use it for talking to people,just file trasfer and instant message.I don't even have a microphone or webcam,so i couldn't do that crap,lol.

    It' nice to send people stuff very quickly though.
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    honestly i didn't know you could do that, i figured it was just a webcam thing. anyways back to working on this!
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    yea,lol I didn't know you could do that either,until someone told me about it,haha
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    Ive given up on AT for now, starting Let It Loose.
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      CommentAuthorBFET
    • CommentTimeJul 30th 2010
     
    Glad to hear you boys still going at it on these. I think we'd be pleased to hear anything you post.
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    Almost done with LIL...its not crystal clear Back In Black quality, but i think its better.
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    Lol,I've gotten results out of Alright Tonight and you've gotten them out of Let It Loose,worked out perfectly.

    I'll post it today BFET.
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      CommentAuthorAccusedNut
    • CommentTimeJul 30th 2010
     
    How much does Audacity cost?
    • CommentAuthorEl3ment380
    • CommentTimeJul 30th 2010
     
    It's free
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      CommentAuthorAccusedNut
    • CommentTimeJul 30th 2010
     
    I might check it out, this mastering thing sounds fun
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    Trust me, its not.
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    I don't think we should call it "mastering" because it's really not,lol.

    Maybe call it "enhance" them.Audacity is fun and useful once you get used to it.

    Beta 1.3 is the best version
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    I call it editing.
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    That'll work^
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      CommentAuthorBFET
    • CommentTimeAug 1st 2010
     
    bump
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      CommentAuthorBFET
    • CommentTimeAug 1st 2010
     
  44.  
    Hey BFET,look what someone over on acdcbootlegs did:

    Let It Loose Edit (Audacity)



    Should have my Alright Tonight up for ya today...
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      CommentAuthorBFET
    • CommentTimeAug 1st 2010
     
    Ok, cool! I'll have to look at this later when I get home. Damn work always blocking things.
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    My version's better ;)

    *kidding* his is pretty good,I'm gonna try and make mine a little cleaner.
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      CommentAuthorBFET
    • CommentTimeAug 1st 2010
     
    Really excited to hear this crisp and clear BI like production...... cough* jk. Excited to hear it, though, nitro. If its good enough it'll replace to original one on my iPod.
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    Im excited to hear it too. But nitro, are you working on Let it Loose or Alright Tonight? Im confused lol.
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      CommentAuthornitroangus23
    • CommentTimeAug 1st 2010 edited
     
    Both,lol
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    Oh alright lol.
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    well, for some reason its got a weird fuzz to it when i uploaded it, but here is my first attempt.
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      CommentAuthorBFET
    • CommentTimeAug 1st 2010
     
    This will sure be a feckin task. Lol.
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      CommentAuthornitroangus23
    • CommentTimeAug 2nd 2010 edited
     
    Here's my crack at it,
    _____________________________________________________________________________________________________
    Alright Tonight


    _____________________________________________________________________________________________________
    Better/Worse?
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      CommentAuthorBFET
    • CommentTimeAug 2nd 2010
     
    I think it's getting better. Good job!
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    The guitars in your version sound a bit different than the Alright Tonight I have on my iPod. Did you mess with them much? I think they sound better than on the one I have.
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    I did a bunch to it,actually,lol.EQing it will change the guitars a bit,if done enough.

    Apparently the version I used is slower than some other versions around.

    Same quality sound wise though.
    • CommentAuthorwheels
    • CommentTimeAug 2nd 2010
     
    I figured out both Alright Tonight and Let it Loose well over a year ago. If I can get my microphone fixed I'll record them.
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      CommentAuthornitroangus23
    • CommentTimeAug 2nd 2010 edited
     
    Nice,please post your cover,

    I'm sure we'd like to hear your version :)

    but I wasn't talking about playing the songs,lol.
    • CommentAuthorwheels
    • CommentTimeAug 2nd 2010
     
    I only read the first few posts so I thought everyone was talking about playing them :(
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      CommentAuthornitroangus23
    • CommentTimeAug 3rd 2010 edited
     
    This is what I can make out of the lyrics,I'm sure some of them are wrong.I couldn't get some of them,so I left them blank.In the beginning of the song I thought it was "Wanna Go",but "Wanna Flow" sounds more like what Brian's saying.Listen to it and read my lyrics,see if you can help fill in the blanks.
    _____________________________________________________________________________________________________
    Alright Tonight nitro's lyrics
    _____________________________________________________________________________________________________
    Do You Wanna Boogie?
    Do You Wanna Blow?
    She Said, "I Do,I Do,I Do"
    Do You You Want Some Lovin?
    Do You Wanna Flow?
    She Said, "I Do,I Do,I Do"

    Alright Tonight,Alright Tonight
    She Went,
    Alright Tonight,Alright Tonight,
    She Said,
    Alright Tonight,Alright Tonight,

    Do You Wanna Party?
    Do You Wanna Meet?
    She Said,"I Do,I Do,I Do"
    Do You Wanna __________?
    She Said,"I Do,I Do,I Do"

    Alright Tonight,Alright Tonight
    She Said,
    Alright Tonight,Alright Tonight

    We're All Alright Tonight,
    We're All Alright Tonight,
    We're All Alright Tonight,

    Tonight,

    Tonight,

    Do Ya Want It Dirty?
    Do Ya Want A Show?
    She Said,"I Do,I Do,I Do"
    You Wanna______?
    You Wanna______?
    She Said,"I Do,I Do,I Do"

    Alright Tonight,Alright Tonight,
    She Said,
    Alright Tonight,Alright Tonight,

    We're All Alright Tonight,
    We're All Alright Tonight,
    We're All Alright Tonight,

    Tonight,

    I'm Gonna Be,

    Tonight,

    Baby I'm Alright Tonight,

    That's Alright