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    Can I ask some of you more experienced collectors a question?

    I’ve never really collected vinyl (frightened of what I’ll spend) but I’m heading to a record fair this weekend which claims to have original Australian 1st 2nd & 3rd pressings.

    2 questions:

    How much would I expect to reasonably pay for such items?
    How do I tell if they are genuine?

    Any help would be greatly appreciated before I start down this slippery slope.
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    Bonlives.... the king of vinyl
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    Posted By: HighVoltageCan I ask some of you more experienced collectors a question?

    I’ve never really collected vinyl (frightened of what I’ll spend) but I’m heading to a record fair this weekend which claims to have original Australian 1st 2nd & 3rd pressings.

    2 questions:

    How much would I expect to reasonably pay for such items?
    How do I tell if they are genuine?

    Any help would be greatly appreciated before I start down this slippery slope.

    I suggest you look up on Discogs the albums you're looking for and search for those particular editions while you're there. Australian editions have been reissued a number of times and usually the color of the vinyl label changes, or the Albert's kangaroo disappears. You can also have an idea of the real value on Discogs so you don't get ripped off. From my experience at record fairs sellers tend to inflate the prices.
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      AC/DC rock music: bonlives
    • Oct 21st 2019
     
    @HighVoltage

    Posted By: HighVoltageHow much would I expect to reasonably pay for such items?

    In terms of price, the general rule is:

    First pressing > Second pressing > Third and subsequent pressings... meaning you will pay the most for first pressings, unless the later pressings are considered rare or unique (eg mispressings).

    Actual prices are a bit all over the place. In Australian dollars (I'm Australian, so it's the currency I concern myself with and it's where you find the bulk of the pressings you're talking about, obviously!), the *most common* prices seen currently on eBay are:

    * ~$100-$150AUD+ for first pressing early (HV, TNT, DDDDC, LTBR, P, IYWB, HTH) Alberts LPs in good condition. You can find the occasional cheaper copy, but usually in rougher condition. You can also find much dearer copies.

    * ~$70-$90AUD for second pressing early Alberts LPs

    * ~$50-$70AUD for third pressing early Alberts LPs

    * ~$50AUD and under for BIB onwards in most cases, save for some rarer, later CBS pressings.

    + postage in all cases.

    Remember to factor in the cost of postage when looking at your record fair prices, and consider the risk of postage (breakage, not arriving) versus taking home the record on the spot - you should put a value on that too.

    Patience is the key if you're looking to build a collection of early Alberts LPs - it can be done without blowing the bank if you're prepared to wait for the right copy to come along at the right price.

    Posted By: HighVoltageHow do I tell if they are genuine?

    In terms of authenticity, I can't recall seeing a faked blue label Alberts LP - if they exist, there can't be too many of them, so I think you should be fine if you're looking at blue label LPs. The fakes are usually solid red labels, some black labels, or coloured vinyl, and the sleeves just look shiny and new.

    Blue label is where it's at - any blue label you come across, whether first or second pressing for any album, will be a good purchase.

    In summary (with links to Discogs for your reference):

    Alberts blue/yellow label with a little kangaroo logo = first pressing HV, TNT, DDDDC, LTBR

    * HV - https://www.discogs....
    * TNT - https://www.discogs....
    * DDDDC - https://www.discogs....
    * LTBR - https://www.discogs....

    Alberts blue/yellow label without a little roo logo = first pressing P, IYWB, HTH; second pressing HV, TNT, DDDDC, LTBR

    * P - https://www.discogs....
    * IYWB - https://www.discogs....
    * HTH - https://www.discogs....
    * HV - https://www.discogs....
    * TNT - https://www.discogs....
    * DDDDC - https://www.discogs....
    * LTBR - https://www.discogs....

    Alberts black/yellow label (no roo logo) = third pressing HV, TNT, DDDDC, LTBR, P, IYWB, HTH

    * HV - https://www.discogs....
    * TNT - https://www.discogs....
    * DDDDC - https://www.discogs....
    * LTBR - https://www.discogs....
    * P - https://www.discogs....
    * IYWB - https://www.discogs....
    * HTH - https://www.discogs....

    Alberts red/yellow label = first pressing BIB, FTATR and repressings for some of the earlier LPs

    * BIB - https://www.discogs....
    * FTATR - https://www.discogs....

    .. and that's probably where the lesson should end for now. There are multiple label variations within even the first, second and third pressings, but you'll be utterly ruined if you go down that path.

    Good luck and may god have mercy upon your soul.
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      AC/DC rock music: Inferno
    • Oct 21st 2019
     
    Posted By: bonlives.. and that's probably where the lesson should end for now. There are multiple label variations within even the first, second and third pressings, but you'll be utterly ruined if you go down that path.

    Good luck and may god have mercy upon your soul.


    : )
    • AC/DC rock music: nimeta
    • Oct 21st 2019
     
    Keep an eye out for any cool NZ stuff also :)
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    And that’s why this place is so great.

    Thank you so much for the advice.

    @Bonlives I knew you’d be the man but that is so much more info than expected & is greatly appreciated. I’m also in Australia so that price guide really helps. Without this advice I’d likely make a large, impulse purchase. I’ll compare these prices & (try) to be patient...
    • AC/DC rock music: nimeta
    • Oct 22nd 2019
     
    One final bit of advice...more for Discogs, but equally applicable at a fair (more so in fact). I more or less never offer full price on Discogs and virtually all sellers are willing to negotiate. Probably this is obvious....but don't let the rush of excitement cloud your negotiating prowess !!! You have the cash, so you have the upper hand.
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    Posted By: nimetaOne final bit of advice...more for Discogs, but equally applicable at a fair (more so in fact). I more or less never offer full price on Discogs and virtually all sellers are willing to negotiate. Probably this is obvious....but don't let the rush of excitement cloud your negotiating prowess !!! You have the cash, so you have the upper hand.


    Thanks mate, I’ll keep that in mind & try to control myself.
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      AC/DC rock music: bonlives
    • Oct 22nd 2019
     
    @HighVoltage - no worries mate, always happy to help. Best of luck at the record fair and feel free to ask more questions if you're unsure of anything.

    Nimeta's advice is solid - always be prepared to negotiate a price. If the price is in the sweet spot, and after taking into consideration postage etc, pull the trigger and be sure to send us some pics of your purchase. If you're not sure about the authenticity, hold fire, get a contact number from the seller and see if you can take some pics and post up here for advice... you can always contact the seller later and cut a deal.
    • AC/DC rock music: nimeta
    • Oct 22nd 2019
     
    And don't forget to share with us your experiences. My favourite posts here are the ones where I get super jealous when someone grabs a great bargain. especially if its something I don't own :)
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    Posted By: nimetaAnd don't forget to share with us your experiences. My favourite posts here are the ones where I get super jealous when someone grabs a great bargain. especially if its something I don't own :)


    Me too. Although I’m collecting lots more varied stuff nowadays, I always cherish my acdc collection, and love to see other people’s finds.
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      AC/DC rock music: mtbishop
    • Oct 22nd 2019
     
    this would be a classic example of overpaying for an LP.

    [Link to eBay item]
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    Posted By: HighVoltageCan I ask some of you more experienced collectors a question?

    I’ve never really collected vinyl (frightened of what I’ll spend) but I’m heading to a record fair this weekend which claims to have original Australian 1st 2nd & 3rd pressings.

    2 questions:

    How much would I expect to reasonably pay for such items?
    How do I tell if they are genuine?

    Any help would be greatly appreciated before I start down this slippery slope.


    If you're in or near Brisbane I know of a couple of collectors who sell 1st and 2nd pressings. Last year I purchased a blue roo first press TNT album and a couple of other items as well.
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    If you're in or near Brisbane I know of a couple of collectors who sell 1st and 2nd pressings. Last year I purchased a blue roo first press TNT album and a couple of other items as well.


    Couldn’t be much further away mate, I’m in Hobart. I have spent a bit of time in Brisbane for work, but not any more. Thanks anyway & glad you picked up some items.
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    Posted By: mtbishopthis would be a classic example of overpaying for an LP.

    [Link to eBay item]




    Jesus. I picked up my red Canadian off eBay for $75aud
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      AC/DC rock music: bonlives
    • Oct 29th 2019
     
    How'd you go @HighVoltage? Pick up anything at the record fair?
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    Posted By: bonlivesHow'd you go @HighVoltage? Pick up anything at the record fair?


    Ive been meaning to post all week & let you know that thanks to your sound advice my bank balance has remained intact & I have not started a vinyl collection. Yet...

    They did have copies of LTBR, Powerage, HTH, BIB, TNT, High Voltage, some singles & a live bootleg from 76’. Prices of earlier albums were all over $100 & some over $200 but they all lacked the Kangaroo on the label you told me to look for. Condition of the records varied. Still, it was an enjoyable experience & I encountered people looking for AC/DC albums for family members who were very appreciative of my knowledge of the boys, which is in contrast to most people I know getting sick of me talking about the same band constantly.

    Thanks again for the advice, I still very nearly got caught up in the excitement & would’ve almost certainly overpaid if not for the advice I got here.
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      AC/DC rock music: bonlives
    • Oct 30th 2019
     
    *Around* $100 for second pressings would have been reasonable considering the cost of postage, but not much over and certainly not over $200.

    Glad you enjoyed the experience - always interesting characters at fairs.

    *Remember, Powerage and HTH first pressings did not have a roo logo. $100-$150 is the going rate currently.
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    Yeah I did remember about Powerage & HTH. Strongly considered Powerage at $150 but it wasn’t in great condition & they wanted $250 for HTH.

    There were some interesting characters there alright. Was certainly well patronised. A mate who is a huge Kiss fan got some bargains (according to him) but they knew how to price the AC/DC stuff.
    • AC/DC rock music: nimeta
    • Nov 1st 2019
     
    Posted By: HighVoltage
    Posted By: bonlivesHow'd you go @HighVoltage? Pick up anything at the record fair?


    I have not started a vinyl collection. Yet...
    .


    Which means you are still in the market, in which case Discogs is the deepest marketplace.

    So bearing in mind that postage erodes value and that sellers are willing to negotiate anyway, but they will in my experience do deeper discounts for multiple sales. So look for sellers with several of the Aussie pressings you want and contact them and haggle hard. There is a cost of time for them packing, posting etc..., so its in their interests to shift, say, 5 units at once instead of just 1. Its a win-win strategy, if you can find buyers with several items you want.